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Post by sanjoy on Mar 24, 2007 12:13:47 GMT 6
forza Tv is a really good idea... watchin pro gamers race
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Post by HundredProofSam on Mar 24, 2007 18:53:45 GMT 6
ya its there in PGR3 too.....watching those guys makes me feel ashamed of myself
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Post by HundredProofSam on Mar 25, 2007 11:18:31 GMT 6
First Look at Forza Motorsport 2's Tournament ModeQ: Alright, so when last we met, we covered Forza 2's Auction House. Today, we're gonna take our first look at the other big new feature in the game -- Tournament mode. So, from a high level design standpoint, what was the big idea behind giving tournaments their own official space in the game this time around? Bill Giese: Well, we had always wanted an in-game tournament system since the first Forza Motorsport. After we shipped the first game and began scoping out Forza 2, tournaments was the first multiplayer system I put down on paper as the multiplayer design lead. After we saw the work that was done by Microsoft Game Studio's tools and technology group to create tournaments for Project Gotham Racing 3, we knew we could easily implement a compelling tournament structure within the game. Q: So can you explain how these tournaments work?
BG: Each tournament will have a two-day qualifying period. In those 2 days players can go to the tournament select screen and choose a tournament to qualify for. Really, this is similar to a Time Trial and/or Free Run time attack. Players will be shown the Qualification Bar needed to make it into the tournament. This bar is set by the players themselves based on how many people are allowed in the tournament. If a tournament will only allow 128 players in, then the player with the 128th fastest time is that qualifying bar. Players can qualify as much as they want before the cut-off point. Q: What happens after you qualify for a tournament?
BG: Once you have qualified for a tournament we will place a graphical helmet icon on that tournament in the menu list. Here, you can select this tournament to see the tournament bracket breakdown (as well who is assigned to in each room). You can also see what track is set for each round as well as who you will be playing with in the first round. Players are randomly seeded after the qualifying round into the first round. You can also choose to practice any of the rounds before the tournament by selecting the track on the bracket screen. The number of brackets depends on the amount of players we determine at Turn 10 for that tournament. Q: How many total players can be in a tournament?
BG: The player size for each tournament breaks down as follows: 64 players = 8 Brackets – 4 rounds 128 players = 16 Brackets – 5 rounds 256 players = 32 Brackets – 6 rounds To allow more players into a tournament we have branched out some of the tournaments after the qualifying round. This will allow a great deal more people to play and get to experience tournaments. We will take the top third from qualifying and put them into the gold tier tournament, the next 3rd of the qualifying will be put into the silver tier tournament, and the last 3rd will go to the bronze tier tournament. The track and lap assignments are the same, the payout at the end of each race will just be different. We have also incorporated our career payout system to the tournaments. So those who finish 7th or more will still be given a reward. This payout is scaled based on which tier tournament you are in, so no matter what, you are still earning money toward you career profile -- and besides the glory of winning tournaments and getting called out on Forzamotorsport.net, money is the main motivator for joining tournaments. Q: Wow, sounds like a pretty complex system of automation. So, this is all automated, right? It's not like Turn 10 is going to sit on Xbox Live and create lobbies and rooms for people to join, right? (Please say no).
BG: Yeah, the great thing about Forza 2's tourney system is that everything is automated and we control it with an admin tool here behind-the-scenes. One nifty feature we've included for all this interaction with Tournaments and Auctions is a notification and inbox system all within the game. This notification system essentially helps you get to your tournament race on time. We track your gamertag while you play Forza Motorsport 2 and you'll receive messages in the menu system telling you that you have either 15, 10 or 5 minutes to get to you tournament race before it begins. If you open the message it will automatically take you to the tournaments screen from whichever menu you're currently sitting at. Note that this function does not work in race, only in the non-race menus of the game. Q: What happens if you fail to show up for a tournament?
BG: Noshowkernal.exe is fired off the DVD and we wipe the players hard drive of all Forza Motorsport 2 data (just kidding -- or am I?). That and you will be given a DNF or instant loss for that race, therefore removing you from the tournament. Q: What kind of (and how many) tournaments will we see online?
BG: When the game hits retail in May, we'll have 12 weekly tournaments active, with at least one for every car class. The non-race classes will be split into three groups so overall you will see 24 tournaments on the tournament select screen. We designed the faster classes (S, U, R1,R2,R3,R4) to start on the weekends as we felt the best racing action will come from those classes. We are also opening up the player limit to those weekend starting tournaments to allow more people. Q: So this sort of begs the question you know the community is going to ask -- can we setup our own tournaments?
BG: One of our main goals in Forza 2, was to bridge the gap between hardcore racers and casual racers. Forza 2 is our first implementation of tournaments and we wanted to build an automated system that would allow all players to compete on common ground. We have the ability to setup, change, and tweak tournaments on-the-fly. Our tournaments are designed in-house here at Turn 10 and take all of the hassle of finding good people to play against. Similar to auction house we want people to have a safe and clear environment to trade cars with one another. In that same vein we have removed the middle man from the equation. This is not to say that we don’t want to have player created tournaments. On the contrary, we do want players to develop their own shared experiences through Forza. One tool we've given players is a much more robust multiplayer server with all kinds of restrictions, settings, and even multi-round racing. But like I said, this is our first attempt at a complex system like tournaments and we want to make sure we do it right by not biting off more than we could chew in one go. We are barely skimming the surface of tournaments and this is an area we are very passionate about. Q: Will we be seeing sponsored tournaments or win prizes?
BG: Yes, we will be doing some really cool things with sponsored and community driven tournaments. Q: So we've heard a bit about Forza TV. How does that work into all this?
BG: Forza TV is completely integrated into the tournament system. If a tournament is currently running, you have the option of going into the bracket and watching the action in real-time. We have also built a specific channel off of the Forza TV list called “Featured Races”. These races are hands down the hottest races happening online. This includes sponsored tournaments as well as tournaments containing the higher ranked players. So consider it an honor as well if you find yourself being televised in our Featured Races channel. Q: Can we record replays or take photos from tournaments?
BG: If you are playing in a tournament you can save the replay after the race, like you can in all multiplayer races. Likewise, during these replays, you can go into Photomode at any time to snap pictures. forzamotorsport.net/news/pitpassreports/pitpass39.htmpeace
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Post by HundredProofSam on Mar 30, 2007 21:18:39 GMT 6
come on god dammit....release this already.....i cant decide what i'm anticipating more - this or the PS3!!!
its been one week since any updates on FM2...tomorrow's pitpass report can't come soon enough
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Post by HundredProofSam on Mar 31, 2007 12:18:52 GMT 6
excerpts from this weeks pitpass report
I tend to do things in linear fashion, so naturally, I wanted to finish all the events in the "Proving Grounds" area before moving on. The important thing to note here is that you really don't have to be such a completist in that regard. After a few races in the beginner arena, you're free to wander and complete the game's huge matrix of events in any order you like. So it was on one of the test track events where I was first introduced to the concept of Career AI racers.
In Forza 2's single-player mode, you go through career events competing against a decent group of international racers, each with a unique name, driving style, favorite color, and career record. So as you advance through the ranks, chalk up wins (or losses), so do the AI racers. So in effect, you end up going wheel-to-wheel with these guys over many many hard-fought battles.
What's even more interesting is the fact that you can also hire drivers (whose cumulative stats also change as they win or lose races) to hit the road for you if you feel like sitting out and watching from the sidelines. The better the driver, the more they'll take from your winnings.
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Post by Altaïr47 on Apr 2, 2007 12:36:24 GMT 6
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Post by HundredProofSam on Apr 2, 2007 12:44:00 GMT 6
i was inevitable....but why no exact date....its obvious for the demo to be out in apr since the game drops in may
+1 for being some1 other than me to post in this thread ;D
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Post by sanjoy on Apr 2, 2007 14:02:24 GMT 6
woo got my XBl renewed in time.... even mass effect demo might hit soon
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Post by KC on Apr 4, 2007 18:32:22 GMT 6
In addition to confirming that a Forza 2 demo is in the pipeline today, Microsoft has revealed the latest list of cars for the Xbox 360 motorsports spectacular - say hello to the Aftermarket Tuner Car Classics. The Aftermarket Tuner Car Classics features beefed up motors from 1992 through to 2006, with 35 vehicles in total joining the Forza 2 roster. You'll be able to leap behind the wheel of the likes of the Tommy Kaira Skyline from Nissan and the VeilSide Supra Fortune from Toyota - and plenty more. Here's the full list: 1998 - Toyota - AB Flug S900 Supra Turbo 2000 - Honda - Aerogear Integra Type-R 2003 - Toyota - APR Performance Celica GTS 2000 - Audi - AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4 1995 - Toyota - Border MR2 Turbo T-bar 2003 - Chevrolet - Corvette Guldstrand Edition 1994 - Honda - Do-Luck NSX 1992 - Toyota - Do-Luck Supra 2003 - Nissan - Fairlady Z Custom Edition 2003 - Ford - FocusSport SVT Focus 2003 - Lexus - Foose Design IS430 Project Car 2000 - Dodge - Hennessey Viper 800TT 2006 - Mitsubishi - HKS Time Attack Evolution 1995 - Mazda - INGS RX-7 2002 - Chevrolet - Lingenfelter 427 Corvette 1999 - Mitsubishi - MINE'S CP9A Lancer Evolution VI 1993 - Nissan - MINE'S R32 Skyline GT-R 2002 - Nissan - MINE'S R34 Skyline GT-R 2004 - Honda - Mugen Civic Type-R 2002 - Honda - Mugen Integra Type-R 2003 - Honda - Mugen S2000 1995 - Mazda - RE-Amemiya RX-7 2003 - Mitsubishi - Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII 1998 - Subaru - Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b 2002 - Nissan - Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-R R34 1995 - Toyota - Tom's T020 MR2 2002 - Toyota - Tom's W123 MR-S 2002 - Toyota - Tom's Z382 Soarer 1998 - Toyota - Top Secret 0-300 Supra 2000 - Nissan - Top Secret D1-Spec S15 1998 - Toyota - VeilSide Supra Fortune 03 1998 - Toyota - VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 2000 - Acura - VIS Racing Integra Type-R 1995 - Toyota - VIS Racing MR2 Turbo T-bar 2004 - Honda - Wings West Civic Si www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161430
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Post by HundredProofSam on Apr 5, 2007 8:38:32 GMT 6
Consolidated list with Aftermarket Cars Sr No | Year | Manufacturer | Model | 1 | 2002 | Acura | RSX Type-S | 2 | 2001 | Acura | Integra Type-R | 3 | 2006 | Acura | RL A-Spec | 4 | 2005 | Acura | NSX | 5 | 1997 | Acura | NSX | 6 | 2000 | Acura | VIS Racing Integra Type-R | 7 | 2001 | Aston Martin | V12 Vanquish | 8 | 2005 | Aston Martin | DB9 Coupe | 9 | 2004 | Audi | TT Coupe 3.2 quattro | 10 | 2000 | Audi | S4 | 11 | 2004 | Audi | S4 | 12 | 2003 | Audi | RS 6 | 13 | 2006 | Audi | RS 4 | 14 | 2000 | Audi | AWE Tuning SilverBullet S4 | 15 | 2004 | Bentley | Continental GT | 16 | 1997 | BMW | Motorsport M3 E36 | 17 | 2005 | BMW | Motorsport M3 E46 Coupe | 18 | 2002 | BMW | Motorsport M3-GTR | 19 | 1987 | Buick | Regal GNX | 20 | 2004 | Cadillac | CTS-V | 21 | 2005 | Chevrolet | Cobalt SS Coupe | 22 | 2002 | Chevrolet | Camaro 35th Anniversary SS | 23 | 2002 | Chevrolet | Camaro SS | 24 | 1996 | Chevrolet | Corvette Grand Sport | 25 | 2002 | Chevrolet | Corvette Z06 | 26 | 2006 | Chevrolet | Corvette Z06 | 27 | 1969 | Chevrolet | Camaro Z28 | 28 | 1969 | Chevrolet | Camaro SS Coupe | 29 | 1970 | Chevrolet | Chevelle SS-454 | 30 | 1967 | Chevrolet | Corvette Stingray 427 | 31 | 1970 | Chevrolet | Corvette ZR-1 | 32 | 2003 | Chevrolet | Corvette Guldstrand Edition | 33 | 2002 | Chevrolet | Lingenfelter 427 Corvette | 34 | 2004 | Chrysler | PT Cruiser GT | 35 | 1998 | Chrysler | Eagle Talon TSi Turbo | 36 | 2006 | Chrysler | Crossfire SRT6 | 37 | 2005 | Chrysler | ME Four-Twelve Concept | 38 | 1968 | Chrysler | Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S | 39 | 2003 | Dodge | SRT4 | 40 | 1996 | Dodge | Stealth R/T Turbo | 41 | 2006 | Dodge | Charger SRT8 | 42 | 1999 | Dodge | Viper GTS ACR | 43 | 2003 | Dodge | Viper SRT10 | 44 | 2003 | Dodge | Viper Competition Coupe | 45 | 1969 | Dodge | Charger R/T-SE | 46 | 2000 | Dodge | Hennessey Viper 800TT | 47 | 2005 | Ferrari | 612 Scaglietti | 48 | 1994 | Ferrari | F355 Berlinetta | 49 | 1999 | Ferrari | 360 Modena | 50 | 2002 | Ferrari | 575M Maranello | 51 | 1991 | Ferrari | 512 TR | 52 | 1998 | Ferrari | F355 Challenge | 53 | 1984 | Ferrari | GTO | 54 | 2004 | Ferrari | F430 | 55 | 2003 | Ferrari | Challenge Stradale | 56 | 1987 | Ferrari | F40 | 57 | 1995 | Ferrari | F50 | 58 | 2002 | Ferrari | Enzo Ferrari | 59 | 1969 | Ferrari | Dino 246 GT | 60 | 1964 | Ferrari | 250 GTO | 61 | 1967 | Ferrari | 330 P4 | 62 | 2003 | Ford | Focus SVT | 63 | 2006 | Ford | Focus ST | 64 | 2005 | Ford | Mustang GT | 65 | 2000 | Ford | Mustang Cobra R | 66 | 2005 | Ford | Ford GT | 67 | 1970 | Ford | Mustang Boss 429 | 68 | 1966 | Ford | GT40 MkII | 69 | 2003 | Ford | FocusSport SVT Focus | 70 | 1994 | Honda | Civic 1.5 VTi | 71 | 1995 | Honda | CR-X Del Sol SiR | 72 | 1999 | Honda | Civic Si Coupe | 73 | 2000 | Honda | Prelude SiR | 74 | 1991 | Honda | CR-X SiR | 75 | 2000 | Honda | Integra Type-R | 76 | 2004 | Honda | Civic Type-R | 77 | 2002 | Honda | Integra Type-R | 78 | 2003 | Honda | S2000 | 79 | 1992 | Honda | NSX-R | 80 | 2005 | Honda | NSX-R | 81 | 2005 | Honda | NSX-R GT | 82 | 2004 | Honda | Wings West Civic Si | 83 | 2000 | Honda | Aerogear Integra Type-R | 84 | 2004 | Honda | Mugen Civic Type-R | 85 | 2002 | Honda | Mugen Integra Type-R | 86 | 2003 | Honda | Mugen S2000 | 87 | 1994 | Honda | Do-Luck NSX | 88 | 2003 | Hyundai | Tuscani Elisa | 89 | 2003 | Infiniti | G35 Coupe | 90 | 2007 | Jaguar | XK Coupe | 91 | 1993 | Jaguar | XJ220 | 92 | 1961 | Jaguar | E-type S1 | 93 | 2002 | Koenigsegg | CC8S | 94 | 2005 | Lamborghini | Gallardo | 95 | 1988 | Lamborghini | Countach LP5000 QV | 96 | 1997 | Lamborghini | Diablo SV | 97 | 2005 | Lamborghini | Murcielago | 98 | 1999 | Lamborghini | Diablo GTR | 99 | 1992 | Lancia | Delta Integrale EVO | 100 | 1974 | Lancia | Stratos HF Stradale | 101 | 2003 | Lexus | IS300 | 102 | 2002 | Lexus | SC430 | 103 | 2006 | Lexus | IS350 | 104 | 2003 | Lexus | Foose Design IS430 ProjectCar | 105 | 2003 | Lotus | Elise 135R | 106 | 2005 | Lotus | Elise 111S | 107 | 2005 | Lotus | Exige | 108 | 2005 | Lotus | Exige Espionage | 109 | 1989 | Lotus | Carlton | 110 | 2005 | Lotus | Exige Cup 240 | 111 | 2002 | Lotus | Esprit V8 | 112 | 1972 | Lotus | Elan Sprint | 113 | 2006 | Maserati | GranSport | 114 | 2004 | Maserati | MC12 | 115 | 2005 | Mazda | Axela Sport 23S | 116 | 2001 | Mazda | Mazdaspeed Familia | 117 | 2001 | Mazda | Mazdaspeed Roadster | 118 | 1990 | Mazda | Savanna RX-7 | 119 | 2004 | Mazda | RX-8 Mazdaspeed | 120 | 1997 | Mazda | RX-7 | 121 | 2002 | Mazda | RX-7 Spirit R Type-A | 122 | 1995 | Mazda | AB Flug RX-7 | 123 | 1995 | Mazda | INGS RX-7 | 124 | 1995 | Mazda | RE-Amemiya RX-7 | 125 | 1997 | McLaren | F1 GT | 126 | 2003 | Mercedes | CLK55 AMG Coupe | 127 | 2004 | Mercedes | C32 AMG | 128 | 2005 | Mercedes | SLR | 129 | 1998 | Mercedes | AMG Mercedes CLK GTR | 130 | 1954 | Mercedes | 300SL Gullwing Coupe | 131 | 2003 | MINI | Cooper-S | 132 | 2003 | Mitsubishi | Eclipse GTS | 133 | 1995 | Mitsubishi | Eclipse GSX | 134 | 2006 | Mitsubishi | Eclipse GT | 135 | 1998 | Mitsubishi | FTO GP Version R | 136 | 1997 | Mitsubishi | GTO | 137 | 1999 | Mitsubishi | Lancer Evolution VI GSR | 138 | 2004 | Mitsubishi | Lancer Evolution VIII GSR | 139 | 2004 | Mitsubishi | Lancer Evolution VIII MR | 140 | 2000 | Mitsubishi | Lancer Evolution VI TME | 141 | 2006 | Mitsubishi | Lancer Evolution IX GT | 142 | 1999 | Mitsubishi | MINE'S CP9A Lancer EvolutionVI | 143 | 2003 | Mitsubishi | Sparco Lancer Evolution VIII | 144 | 2006 | Mitsubishi | HKS Time Attack Evolution | 145 | 1996 | Nissan | Silvia K's | 146 | 1992 | Nissan | Silvia CLUB K's | 147 | 2002 | Nissan | Skyline GT-R V-Spec IINür | 148 | 2003 | Nissan | Skyline Coupe 350GT | 149 | 2000 | Nissan | Silvia Spec-R | 150 | 2003 | Nissan | Fairlady Z | 151 | 2002 | Nissan | Skyline GT-R V-Spec II | 152 | 1993 | Nissan | Skyline GT-R V-Spec | 153 | 1994 | Nissan | Fairlady Z Version STwinTurbo | 154 | 1998 | Nissan | R390 | 155 | 1969 | Nissan | Fairlady Z 432 | 156 | 1969 | Nissan | Fairlady Z 432R | 157 | 2002 | Nissan | Tommy Kaira Skyline GT-RR34 | 158 | 2003 | Nissan | Fairlady Z Custom Edition | 159 | 2000 | Nissan | Top Secret D1-Spec S15 | 160 | 2002 | Nissan | MINE'S R34 Skyline GT-R | 161 | 1993 | Nissan | MINE'S R32 Skyline GT-R | 162 | 2004 | Opel | Speedster Turbo | 163 | 1999 | Pagani | Zonda C12 | 164 | 2005 | Panoz | Esperante GTLM | 165 | 2007 | Peugeot | 207 RC | 166 | 2004 | Peugeot | 206 RC | 167 | 2007 | Peugeot | 207 Super 2000 | 168 | 2006 | Pontiac | Solstice | 169 | 2004 | Pontiac | GTO | 170 | 1968 | Pontiac | GTO Hardtop | 171 | 2003 | Porsche | Boxster S | 172 | 1989 | Porsche | 944 Turbo | 173 | 1982 | Porsche | 911 Turbo 3.3 | 174 | 2006 | Porsche | Cayman S | 175 | 2004 | Porsche | 911 GT3 -996 | 176 | 2007 | Porsche | 911 Turbo -997 | 177 | 1987 | Porsche | 959 | 178 | 2007 | Porsche | 911 GT3 -997 | 179 | 1995 | Porsche | 911 GT2 | 180 | 2003 | Porsche | Carrera GT | 181 | 1970 | Porsche | 914/6 | 182 | 1973 | Porsche | 911 Carrera RS | 183 | 1955 | Porsche | 550 Spyder | 184 | 2006 | Proto | Motors Spirra | 185 | 2003 | Renault | Sport Clio V6 RS | 186 | 2002 | Saab | 39328 Aero | 187 | 2000 | Saleen | S281 | 188 | 2006 | Saleen | S281 E | 189 | 2004 | Saleen | S7 | 190 | 2006 | Saturn | ION Red Line | 191 | 2005 | Scion | tC | 192 | 2003 | SEAT | Leon Cupra R | 193 | 2005 | SEAT | Cupra GT Prototype | 194 | 2007 | Shelby | GT500 | 195 | 1999 | Shelby | Series 1 | 196 | 1968 | Shelby | Mustang GT-500KR | 197 | 1965 | Shelby | Cobra 427 S/C | 198 | 2005 | Subaru | Legacy B4 2 GT | 199 | 2005 | Subaru | Impreza WRX STI | 200 | 2004 | Subaru | Impreza WRX STi | 201 | 1998 | Subaru | Impreza 22B STi | 202 | 2006 | Subaru | Impreza S204 | 203 | 1998 | Subaru | Tommy Kaira Impreza M20b | 204 | 1985 | Toyota | Sprinter Trueno GT Apex | 205 | 2002 | Toyota | MR-S | 206 | 1992 | Toyota | Supra 2 GT TwinTurbo | 207 | 2004 | Toyota | Altezza RS200 | 208 | 2003 | Toyota | Celica SS-I | 209 | 2002 | Toyota | Soarer 430SCV | 210 | 1995 | Toyota | MR2 GT | 211 | 1998 | Toyota | Supra RZ | 212 | 1969 | Toyota | 2000GT | 213 | 2002 | Toyota | Tom's W123 MR-S | 214 | 1995 | Toyota | Border MR2 Turbo T-bar | 215 | 1995 | Toyota | VIS Racing MR2 TurboT-bar | 216 | 2003 | Toyota | APR Performance Celica GTS | 217 | 1995 | Toyota | Tom's T020 MR2 | 218 | 2002 | Toyota | Tom's Z382 Soarer | 219 | 1992 | Toyota | Do-Luck Supra | 220 | 1998 | Toyota | VeilSide Supra Fortune 3 | 221 | 1998 | Toyota | AB Flug S900 SupraTurbo | 222 | 1998 | Toyota | VeilSide Supra Fortune 99 | 223 | 1998 | Toyota | Top Secret 0-300 Supra | 224 | 2001 | TVR | Tuscan S | 225 | 2001 | TVR | Tuscan R | 226 | 2005 | TVR | Sagaris | 227 | 1998 | TVR | Cerbera Speed 12 | 228 | 2006 | Vauxhall | Astra VXR | 229 | 2004 | Vauxhall | VX220 Turbo | 230 | 2005 | Vauxhall | Monaro VXR | 231 | 2004 | Volkswagen | Beetle | 232 | 1995 | Volkswagen | Corrado VR6 | 233 | 1992 | Volkswagen | Golf GTi 16v Mk2 | 234 | 2003 | Volkswagen | Bora 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Post by KC on Apr 5, 2007 12:50:54 GMT 6
release date set to may 15.
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Post by invictus on Apr 5, 2007 12:55:26 GMT 6
^^^ i wonder how did u beat sam to post this....
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Post by HundredProofSam on Apr 5, 2007 12:57:39 GMT 6
yup so the may 15 release date is pretty much confirmed peace
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Post by invictus on Apr 5, 2007 15:17:11 GMT 6
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnn *cough *cough *blink *blink i mean ...... ....... i dint.............. errrrrrrrrrr :X
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Post by HundredProofSam on Apr 7, 2007 22:16:04 GMT 6
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